{"id":1243,"date":"2009-03-31T01:48:15","date_gmt":"2009-03-31T01:48:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/glaringnotebook.com\/?p=1243"},"modified":"2016-08-28T10:59:59","modified_gmt":"2016-08-28T10:59:59","slug":"tamronsigmasonyminolta-70-200mm-f2-8-shootout","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/glaringnotebook.com\/?p=1243","title":{"rendered":"Tamron\/Sigma\/Sony\/Minolta 70-200mm F2.8 Shootout"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A quick and dirty F2.8 full-frame telephoto zoom lens comparison for Alpha mount!<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.glaringnotebook.com\/zimages\/bsst1.jpg\"><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.glaringnotebook.com\/zimages\/bsst1big.jpg\">Click here for large version.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>The big guns, left to right, arranged in order of MFD:<\/b><br \/>\nMinolta 80-200mm F2.8G HS APO, 1.8m MFD &#8211; Asyraf&#8217;s copy<br \/>\nSony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM, 1.2m MFD &#8211; Nic&#8217;s copy<br \/>\nSigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Macro, 1.0m MFD &#8211; Sham&#8217;s copy<br \/>\nTamron 70-200mm F2.8 Macro, 0.95m MFD &#8211; shop copy<br \/>\nSony Carl Zeiss 135mm F1.8, 0.72m MFD &#8211; my copy<\/p>\n<p>I didn&#8217;t bring my lens hood. \ud83d\ude41<\/p>\n<p>* MFD = Minimum Focus Distance<\/p>\n<p>All tests done with a Sony Alpha 900 firmware Version 1.00. The A900 seems to make the Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM focus faster, subjectively, but at the same time it is hampered by the smaller AF sensor layout. Regardless, the AF assist sensors and the F2.8 dual-cross type center sensor should bring out the best in the worst conditions, namely an indoor flourescent-lit shopping mall!<\/p>\n<p>We were time-limited; the shop was closing soon, and unfortunately we&#8217;d rarely ever get to see such a full combination of 70-200mm F2.8 lens ranges.<\/p>\n<p><b>Settings<\/b> &#8211; Standard Small JPG, DRO Off, ISO1600, F2.8 (or F1.8 on the Zeiss), AWB, Multi-segment metering, center spot AF, AF-C.<\/p>\n<p>We did a comparison with a moving target, in this case a friend walking towards us. I attempted to keep the center spot AF point on the eye of the moving subject.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.glaringnotebook.com\/zimages\/bsstani.gif\"><br \/>\nTamron 70-200mm sample walk.<\/p>\n<p>Lens Name; number of shots; good\/bad shot ratio *<\/p>\n<p>Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 Macro; 14 shots; 8:6<br \/>\nTimestamps: 8:54:40 8:54:40 8:54:40 8:54:40 8:54:40 8:54:42 8:54:42 8:54:42 8:54:42 8:54:44 8:54:44 8:54:44 8:54:44 8:54:44 8:54:46 8:54:46 8:54:46 8:54:46<\/p>\n<p>Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Macro; 12 shots; 5:7<br \/>\nTimestamps: 8:55:26 8:55:28 8:55:28 8:55:28 8:55:28 8:55:30 8:55:30 8:55:30 8:55:30 8:55:30 8:55:32 8:55:32<\/p>\n<p>Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM; 13 shots; 6:7<br \/>\nTimestamps: 8:56:52 8:56:54 8:56:54 8:56:54 8:56:54 8:56:54 8:56:54 8:56:56 8:56:56 8:56:56 8:56:56 8:56:58 8:56:58 <\/p>\n<p>Minolta 80-200mm F2.8G HS APO; 17 shots; 8:9<br \/>\nTimestamps: 9:00:14 9:00:14 9:00:14 9:00:14 9:00:16 9:00:16 9:00:16 9:00:16 9:00:16 9:00:18 9:00:18 9:00:18 9:00:18 9:00:18 9:00:20 9:00:20 9:00:20 <\/p>\n<p>Sony Carl Zeiss 135mm F1.8; 14 shots**; 9:5<br \/>\nTimestamps: 9:00:52 9:00:54 9:00:54 9:00:54 9:00:54 9:00:56 9:00:56 9:00:56 9:00:56 9:00:56 9:00:56 9:00:58 9:00:58 9:00:58 <\/p>\n<p>Number of shots were derived from comparing magnification; magnifications outside the norm were discarded.<\/p>\n<p>Interesting that the timestamp of the file may not be truly representative of the time it was taken; I reckon the A900 writes to the card every 2 seconds, or that it can&#8217;t count in odd seconds. So there goes my plan to use the timestamps to show how fast it can focus!<\/p>\n<p>* <b>good shots<\/b> meaning it was obvious that the lens managed to cope up and focus (some shots had motion blur so I accounted for that as you can still see the relative region of focus); <b>bad shots<\/b> meaning it was obvious that the lens didn&#8217;t manage to keep focus and you&#8217;d want to delete that shot.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.glaringnotebook.com\/zimages\/bsst2.jpg\"><\/p>\n<p>** 14 shots on the Zeiss are not comparable because of the different start\/stop points; I cannot measure this versus the other lenses because they don&#8217;t have the same magnification so I can&#8217;t measure the start\/end points easily.<\/p>\n<p><b>My Subjective Opinion<\/b><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.glaringnotebook.com\/zimages\/bsst6.jpg\"><br \/>\n(<a href=\"http:\/\/www.glaringnotebook.com\/zimages\/bsst6big.jpg\">Click for larger view.<\/a>)<br \/>\nTamron at 200mm F2.8 1\/125s ISO400. This is not a picture of me!<\/p>\n<p>I will assure you that the Sigma at 200mm F2.8 and this close range (on the A900) will <b>not<\/b> give you this amount of sharpness. The Tamron without a doubt is good at 200mm F2.8 in the 1-2 meters range (estimated) where the Sigma falters.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.glaringnotebook.com\/?p=1218\">My previous findings on the Sigma here.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 and Minolta 80-200mm F2.8G HS APO, both being screw-drive lenses, let the A900 fire away more frames at the beginning of the walk. It focused more confidently. There was an obvious audible difference between the 5 FPS of screw-drives and the slower, more hesitant pauses between HSM\/SSM lenses. Everybody noticed this.<\/p>\n<p>Given the low sample rate I have here, I hope somebody out there can take this further especially on the 200mm end &#8211; the shop confines didn&#8217;t allow for 200mm tracking. That said the test was very gruelling on the lenses as it is in poor flourescent lighting so I cannot imagine how it would fare at 200mm. I would imagine that all these lenses would do much better in a daylight drag race at 200mm!<\/p>\n<p>Approaching the minimum focusing distance all lenses struggled mainly because of the A900&#8217;s small AF sensor layout.<\/p>\n<p>The Minolta 80-200mm F2.8G HS APO&#8217;s MFD of 1.8 meters makes itself very apparent in the confines of a shop. Modern lenses do 1.2 meters at least which is great! The Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM is another excellent example, going 1.2 meters close too, a record for any lens that gets to 300mm! Of course, the Minolta 70-210mm F4 beercan has been focusing 1.1 meters close since 1985&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Of course, in the name of science, all tests should be done 3 times. But we didn&#8217;t want to agitate the very nice shopkeeper who let us test this lens. And this was gonna be quick and dirty, not precision. I think a much more precise method would be with the camera on a tripod trying to track a (weighted) racecar with a bright contrasty plastic cone (for a flag) on a track, heading towards the camera in a straight line before turning off.<\/p>\n<p><b>70-135-200mm comparison<\/b><\/p>\n<p>I focused on the S of the Sony A700. Unfortunately this was not a tripod-mounted test!<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.glaringnotebook.com\/zimages\/bsst3.jpg\"><br \/>\n(<a href=\"http:\/\/www.glaringnotebook.com\/zimages\/bsst3big.jpg\">Click for larger view.<\/a>)<br \/>\n<b>Left to right<\/b>: 70mm, 135mm, 200mm all at F2.8<br \/>\n<b>Top is Tamron, bottom is Sigma.<\/b> It seems the Tamron has corrected for longitudinal chromatic aberration, or color &#8216;bokeh&#8217;. It looks odd to me though since I&#8217;m so used to LCA and regard it as a natural property of lenses.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.glaringnotebook.com\/zimages\/bsst4.jpg\"><br \/>\n(<a href=\"http:\/\/www.glaringnotebook.com\/zimages\/bsst4big.jpg\">Click for larger view.<\/a>)<br \/>\n<b>Left to right<\/b>: 70mm\/80mm, 135mm, 200mm all at F2.8<br \/>\n<b>Top is Sony, bottom is Minolta.<\/b><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.glaringnotebook.com\/zimages\/bsst5.jpg\"><br \/>\n(<a href=\"http:\/\/www.glaringnotebook.com\/zimages\/bsst5big.jpg\">Click for larger view.<\/a>)<br \/>\nZeiss at 135mm F1.8.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.glaringnotebook.com\/zimages\/bsst7.jpg\"><br \/>\n(<a href=\"http:\/\/www.glaringnotebook.com\/zimages\/bsst7big.jpg\">Click for larger view.<\/a>)<br \/>\n<b>Left to right<\/b>: 70mm, 135mm, 200mm all at F2.8<br \/>\n<b>Top is Tamron, middle is Sigma, bottom is Sony.<\/b><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.glaringnotebook.com\/zimages\/bsst8.jpg\"><br \/>\n(<a href=\"http:\/\/www.glaringnotebook.com\/zimages\/bsst8big.jpg\">Click for larger view.<\/a>)<br \/>\nZeiss at 135mm F1.8.<\/p>\n<p>The Sigma and Tamron have much more obvious spherical aberration. I thought the Tamron was alright at 135mm and a heck lot better than the Sigma at 200mm and close focus (1-2 meters.) The Sigma has very obvious softening!<\/p>\n<p><b>Stuff I Did Not Compare<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Color<\/b> &#8211; I was in flourescent lighting. \ud83d\ude41<\/p>\n<p><b>Bokeh<\/b> &#8211; the shop people kept moving about so the background changed quite a bit as you can see.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A quick and dirty F2.8 full-frame telephoto zoom lens comparison for Alpha mount! Click here for large version. The big guns, left to right, arranged in order of MFD: Minolta 80-200mm F2.8G HS APO, 1.8m MFD &#8211; Asyraf&#8217;s copy Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM, 1.2m MFD &#8211; Nic&#8217;s copy Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Macro, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[13,19],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1243","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-geek","category-pictures"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/glaringnotebook.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1243","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/glaringnotebook.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/glaringnotebook.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/glaringnotebook.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/glaringnotebook.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1243"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/glaringnotebook.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1243\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":11527,"href":"https:\/\/glaringnotebook.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1243\/revisions\/11527"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/glaringnotebook.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1243"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/glaringnotebook.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1243"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/glaringnotebook.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1243"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}